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I played 16 years in the game. And, I think I played every position—I know I played every position, at one time or another, except pitcher and catcher. 

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So, I was not surprised we won in '02, but—I was a little bit surprised in '02; '05, it was different, because I had Steve Largent, 

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the NFL Hall-of-Famer, from Oklahoma, who was my pitcher, and I called him my meal ticket, and I went seven-and-one, mostly with Steve pitching. 

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And the only, actually, the only game I lost was when Steve had an arm injury—had Tommy John surgery on his arm, and couldn't pitch. 

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And, I tried pitching by committee that year, and it didn't work.  

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We walked—I forget, I lost track of how many Democrats we walked, but that—in that series, I only lost the one game, and so, '05 was a great year.