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And I think we, we stood each other up. I remember being at—I think I was getting an award at the Glamour Women of the Year Awards,

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and Pat Schroeder was there as a former, and Connie Morella as a former—when we heard about, and I want to say it was either Tailhook or Aberdeen.

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And we met in the lobby. We all just happened to be going out at the same time and were like, "Did you hear this story that's breaking?" 

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And Pat, being on the Armed Services Committee, organized a, a meeting, you know, shortly thereafter. 

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It must, it must have been Aberdeen, because I had Susan at the time—and was able to organize this meeting where, you know, the, the

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generals had to come in and answer some questions about what was going on and how they were monitoring it. 

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And I, I think it was that, you know, there were those issues, right, that just sort of allowed us to stand each other up 

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to say we are going to challenge the way things have been done. And, so, 

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yes, I learned a lot from, from Congresswoman Schroeder. She's a, you know, she was great, and she was tough, and she was smart.

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And, but I think we all kind of stood each other up at those moments to say, you know, "This isn't just for us."

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And then, once you have a baby girl, all bets out the window. You are so determined to change this world for her.